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Saturday, July 09, 2005

Transit


Transit
Originally uploaded by Terz.

Not posting for a while. I'll need to calm down about the fucking bombing in London for a while first.

All I'm going to say now, and I've always said: You lot are all fucking cowards. You're just lucky the civilised, GOD-fearing world don't do things your way.

5 Comments:

  • At 10:08 AM, July 12, 2005, Blogger NARDAC said…

    I do believe these people are "god-fearing," though I hardly believe that makes them civilised. Or at least civilised by western standards.

    It's horrible, but death and atrocity is also created through small incremental steps, not just with bombs.

    This doesn't mean I don't abhor what they've done.

     
  • At 7:09 PM, July 12, 2005, Blogger Terz said…

    I think it's abhorrent that these so-called 'freedom fighters' think they're doing something that'll eventually be seen as justifiable, because, after all, they are fighting for someone else's freedom. Whether they want it or not.

    You want the rest of humanity to respect what you're doing? Go for military targets. Otherwise, I spit on you and your cause.

     
  • At 4:22 AM, July 13, 2005, Blogger NARDAC said…

    Don't you think the military can be understood as only the visible face of an inherent violence perpetrated by the western world on the other countries it dominates? Don't you think it's a little naive to think that warfare is waged only with guns and weapons?

    Spit on them if you want. It doesn't change a thing. This is a situation based on a real feeling of grievance, mixed with fatalism. Until the west understands this, they can never properly address nor find a solution to the face of terrorism.

    I'm am not for them... I'm just not for a simplistic reaction based on fear and terror.

     
  • At 11:17 AM, July 13, 2005, Blogger wahj said…

    There are acts of violence that deserve our abhorrence, and our public declaration of abhorrence. It matters whether or not we condemn these acts, because it is precisely the feeling of fatalism that leads to them: these are people who have given up on less violent means to achieve their ends. They've decided there's no way out. They've given up. If we stop condemning them (and other, equally abhorrent practices, by either side) then we admit defeat, the same way they have.

    On a more pragmatic level, these attacks are really, really stupid and ill-thought out. Even the IRA learned how counter-productive civilian casualties were, and eventually changed their tactics.

     
  • At 8:33 PM, July 14, 2005, Blogger tbh said…

    The Western world happens to be more "civilised" and economically successful than everybody else because Westerners have always been the best at applying organised violence on others; the best at applying mass uncivilised behaviour on others. Their success lies equally in organising more things than violence, but like Nardac might ask, which kind of Western superiority would the terrorists (and far more innocent people than these besides) remember?

    So many atrocities on ordinary human beings have been committed, and not just by the Western militaries. Agent Orange, Bhopal, etc. We're probably all aiding some of these ourselves – children in some countries putting shoes and shirts together 18 hours a day for less than peanuts and some company selling them to us overexpensively. None of their perpetrators have ever claimed responsibility, and that's a level of cowardice to which even the terrorists don't sink.

    London is showing the right signs, however, of not continuing on the track the United States has gone. There's a real and laudable level-headedness behind their reaction to the attacks, which is something everybody, especially the terrorists, can learn from.

     

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